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Post by bobby2z on Jul 6, 2021 14:14:09 GMT -5
Mets get Winker, Houser, Senzel, Martin & $8m Reds get Tapia, Mauricio & Crow-Armstrong
Mets to confirm
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Post by dd50 on Jul 6, 2021 14:23:06 GMT -5
Mets accept
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Post by Admin on Jul 6, 2021 15:33:18 GMT -5
This trade has been unanimously vetoed by the BoD.
Rationale and comments from the BoD: 1. Winker is the best player in the trade. Winker is #7 OF,#16 hitter overall. There is a clear gap between Winker and Tapia and on top of that the Reds is giving additional players + cash. BOD suggests either a 2 for 2 structure or a 3 for 1 structure. 2. BoD has cap concerns for the Reds. Including the 8M sent to Mets in 2021, Reds will have $80MM coming off books next year, plus Manoa, Voit, O'Neill all go to their black contracts, which isn't going to come close to the $30MM these three account for now. It will be difficult to get above floor next year.
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Post by kamisbrown on Jul 6, 2021 19:26:48 GMT -5
Dave, Winker is 27 and is one of the best hitters in baseball. He is having a year that is not an outlier, but an incremental improvement. Tapia is also having a small improvement over his career numbers, but they are nowhere near as good. In my mind, a fairer trade would be Winker for Tapia and your prospects. That is more equitable value-wise. The other players you would be getting make the trade too lopsided.
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Post by bobby2z on Jul 6, 2021 19:28:01 GMT -5
The Salary cap issue makes sense and we will look at reworking the deal due to that. Doesn’t mean I couldn’t make a trade in the off season for salary, trade for draft picks to add to my cap or bid for FA to add salary and remain compliant.
Your assessment of talent values and the ability for teams to charter their own course are off base. I don’t value the same things you do and this can’t be evaluated based Jessie Winker’s perceived value….
If you look back, my transactions have been consistent in keeping to my goal of youth and NOT worrying about winning this season. My results have been better than even I expected and am on the fringe of contending but that doesn’t change my vision.
Dave and I are discussing the move and we’ll repost.
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Post by bobby2z on Jul 6, 2021 21:28:30 GMT -5
Mets get Winkler, Senzel and Stripling
Reds get Tapia, Mauricio and PCA
No cash changes hands
Mets to confirm
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Post by dd50 on Jul 6, 2021 21:30:26 GMT -5
Mets accept
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2021 14:53:52 GMT -5
Mets get Winkler, Senzel and Stripling Reds get Tapia, Mauricio and PCA No cash changes hands Mets to confirm This trade passes.
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