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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 10:18:54 GMT -5
Was this rule set up just to keep the worst teams down?
Why should there be a minimum?
Shouldn’t the teams with the lowest payroll be able to spend more on free agency?
Just trying to have a friendly discussion
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 10:39:11 GMT -5
It’s meant to make sure you spend in free agency as before season starts and salaries are adjusted sometimes you end up below it and have to get above it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 23:37:10 GMT -5
John, there's a minimum so team's don't just tank a season and cut all their high priced players to make room for prospects that hit free agency. When that happens it gives those teams an ungodly amount to bid on a player as well as show the Board if a team is an active particpate or not as well. It's not a garauntee that won't still happen, but it does keep the playing field a bit more even or fair.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 5:45:58 GMT -5
Why did the ceiling for the draft go up $17 million from 2019-2020
Why did the floor of the draft payroll go up $43 million 19-20
My team is active I’m not coming in 19th place 7 years in a row just to make a run at youll in 2020
How were the calculations made in which The floor went up 3 times more than the ceiling?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 23:15:23 GMT -5
Kris is the League Commissioner and the Cap formula his own, he'd have to answer that as I don't know how he comes up with these Cap numbers for each season.
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Post by Kris on Mar 20, 2020 6:27:13 GMT -5
Milt you mustn read emails then. Lol. I specifically asked how to handle the cap and only Gordon answered me.
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Post by Kris on Mar 20, 2020 6:44:55 GMT -5
The 2019 Cobra cap formula is as follows, and by the way, it has always been available in the spreadsheet (it has its own tab).
2019 MLB Luxury Tax Threshold $206,000,000 $123,600,000 $175,100,000 2019 Cobra Cap
Where the floor is 123M (60% of the threshold) and the ceiling was 85% of the threshold.
It was decided, in large part due to the new rookie draft system, that we should adopt the real MLB luxury tax threshold as our cap. With this, we could no longer use 60% to set the floor, as it would result in teams having too much excess cash carried through the year (around 80M).
$208,000,000 $166,400,000 $208,000,000 2020 Cobra Cap
Last year, teams were allowed to carry around 50M and this year I set it at 80% which came out to about 40M. Since the season won't start for some time I would be open to decreasing the threshold to around 75%, which would get us to the 52M floor. We may actually need it since a bunch of teams have money and it looks like there isn't much to eat that money up with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 16:06:07 GMT -5
By having the league a certain way for so long and then making such a drastic change makes no sense
This league is ridiculous
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Post by kamisbrown on Mar 20, 2020 21:23:45 GMT -5
We currently have 11 teams below the floor. Going to 75% (156MM) reduces that to 4 teams, 2 of which are within $5MM.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 21:27:27 GMT -5
Milt you mustn read emails then. Lol. I specifically asked how to handle the cap and only Gordon answered me. I probably was busy and din't really have time to think on it then? I always preferred the old way, but that wasn't ideal for a floor necessarily? We can always hve a Board discussion on it at the end of the year and see what we can all come up with idea wise and perhaps get a similar system in place from both the old and this new Cap if the Board thinks it would be best for the League as a whole. I know we can't make everyone happy, but hopefully we can make the playing field a it more even?
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Post by Dan P on Mar 20, 2020 22:41:53 GMT -5
On March 8 I published the following note on these threads: "2. Min/Max Payroll Resolution: With the number of teams that are well over the minimum payroll limit this year, might there be some dispensation for teams that are attempting to get within the acceptable payroll range? My recollection is that such an arrangement was done in 2017."
My memo was left without response - but my observation was accurate. As a result, I took several actions to bring San Diego within the currently stated league minimum. (1) overbidding on Roberto Perez, (2) paying $7.7 million for a 2nd round 2020 draft pick, and (3) making a number of offers - including a trade offer to BOD member who failed to respond to my proposal memos. Oh my! Milt was correct when he said that the limits support teams to engage with each other to overcome the constraint. Milt also was making moves to bring his team in-line as well. Meeting the deadline managing the level of complexity this league requires is part of the fun. And after all, "A rule is a rule."
My perspective is that the league may be unwittingly at fault for its current state. I believe it was 2016/7, the BOD changed the Free Agent retention and salary reduction rules as a deterrent to high-priced bidding (and yes I was guilty of that high free agent bidding behavior as well). Move forward to 2020 - these changes may have worked - too well perhaps. Prior to my leaving the league in 2019, I noticed that many teams - new and old, were attempting to acquire the new/young - thus lower cost players. Thus, in my opinion - a variable combination of league rule changes, GM behavior, and the most recent Min/Max salary range changes resulted in the current state.
As a result, I would recommend (my 2 cents from south Texas) that the range remain the same, but dispensation has been given to those whose teams which are in need of salary adjustment. All teams were given around 2 months additional time to make adjustments due to MLB delay - more than past years when special dispensation has been given. Unwittingly, MLB's season start delay created the "dispensation time" granted by exception in past years.
In the future, a formula change may be in order to reestablish balance between the teams. Time will tell. That decision can be made by the BOD at the end of this or beginning of next season.
If you made it this far - thanks for listening. (Go Tribe - errrr - Padres)
Dan P. (San Diego GM)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 1:11:39 GMT -5
Thank you Dan for your insight & input, as always we do listen to them and will have discussions as a Board on the topics at a later date & time to be determined.This was my vision when I started this Board and though I have stepped down to a lack of time to commit to the Commissioner duties on a daily and yearly basis, I still try to keep up with all things and issues related to the League in any matter and I'm always looking into ways to improve the League as well as make changes for the future of the League as a whole. I feel we are slowly getting to where I think it should go and be. God willing, we can get it better next year while we get all the new GMs up to speed on the complications of this League in general.
Milt aka League Executive Director
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